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   paulw406
   

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   Hi,

   I am referring to websites I have seen created with:

   WordPress
   Wix and now their Editor X
   Web Flow
   SquareSpace,
   Even CoffeeCup's Web Designer, etc....

   Where someone can spend a minute scrolling down a page filled with huge pictures, fonts, minimal text and content, just big everything.

   I find these websites extremely frustrating downright ugly.

   Are these designs what people and clients expect?
   Do clients want to be able to edit their own content, design/layout? I don't think I have ever found a theme or template that I have ever liked or found appropriate for what I wanted to do.

   I love what P7 puts out with all their extensions and page builders. And what DW does.

   Just curious what other people think.

   Thanks,

   -paulw

   Posted 3 months ago
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   paulw406
   

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   Here is, for the most part is what set me off. This dude and video reviewing Editor X.

   I didn't even last a minute watching it!

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMzCfwUmsnQ

   -paulw

   Posted 3 months ago
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   Jim
   

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   Related to that, pages that go on and on forever, with huge images and minimal text. What ever happened to "Content is King"?

   Does anybody THINK any more about their MESSAGE? Or is a website simply to entertain you with lots of glitzy things, and then, when you aren't focused, trap you into buying something? One aspect of the problem can be seen in Jakob Nielsen's little video -- the second part. Starting with a little design that fits into a smartphone screen, and spreading it over a desktop version. https://www.nngroup.com/videos/ui-design-fails/ He should know, as he's been studying user interaction and design in a rigorous manner for years.

   With skill no longer needed to produce a website (they would have you believe), there's little skill being applied to what they say. The whole thing is being dumbed down, attention to meaning is lost, and viewers are being entertained but not always enlightened.

   Posted 3 months ago
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   paulw406
   

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   One aspect of the problem can be seen in Jakob Nielsen's little video -- the second part. Starting with a little design that fits into a smartphone screen, and spreading it over a desktop version. https://www.nngroup.com/videos/ui-design-fails/ He should know, as he's been studying user interaction and design in a rigorous manner for years
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   I think he's right, obviously!

   I think the new website design has a lot to do with the age group that are developing most websites these days. Like that dude in the video link.

   These websites make me feel older than 62! I feel guilty that I don't need reading glasses to view these obnoxious new website designs!

   Thanks!

   -paulw

   Posted 3 months ago
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   JasonCloud
   

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   Y'all are absolutely correct. I am working on a website for my granddaughter and had to "dumb it down" with big pictures of projects, etc. There is content there but I can't use some things like AGM which I wanted to use and which I considered more elegant. She is a very talented Industrial Design student at Georgia Tech. Her design heros from around the world are the same way....in many cases with full screen sized graphics.

   And I am way over 62. Haha.

   Cheers
   Jason

   Posted 3 months ago
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   paulw406
   

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   I figured you were probably older than myself to have a grandchild in college! Your picture must be from a long time ago! :-)

   I need to try one of the WordPress. Wix, ... mega sized pages on a phone.

   Dumb downed is right!

   It must be that the younger generation doesn't know any better when it comes to website design. But I think it is the new norm. I've never tried to do a website like this before. Maybe I should sign up for a trial with Editor X to see what it feels like. I am not sure if that is possible with WP unless I sign up for a hosting plan.

   Martha Stewart's website is a typical WordPress website. But good looking. It will give your mousewheel finger an exercise though! Or maybe a cramp! ;-)

   Thanks,

   -paulw

   Y'all are absolutely correct. I am working on a website for my granddaughter and had to "dumb it down" with big pictures of projects, etc. There is content there but I can't use some things like AGM which I wanted to use and which I considered more elegant. She is a very talented Industrial Design student at Georgia Tech. Her design heros from around the world are the same way....in many cases with full screen sized graphics.
   And I am way over 62. Haha.
   Cheers<br />
   Jason

   Posted 3 months ago
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   savio
   

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   sadly we live in a sound byte society now where the emphasis is on short bits of content packaged in loud and glitzy ways...one page scroll sites are (in my opinion) a response to that where content has been lessened and images/video/etc. has been heightened. While it does allow for some neat design options and ideas, it does prevent us from really being able to go into as much detail on content as we would like. Instead of listing it on our site, we have to answer e-mails inquiring for more info/specifics. It is just part of the changing times - I am sure things will change again in the future!

   Posted 3 months ago
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   JasonCloud
   

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   https://gracegerdes.com/TestGracie/index.htm
   https://gracegerdes.com/TestGracie/about.htm
   https://gracegerdes.com/TestGracie/sigogallery.htm

   Working on the site - Zeiteist.

   Could be worse <sigh>

   jason

   Posted 3 months ago
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   paulw406
   

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   Well, she is getting what she wanted Jason! Looks fantastic!

   >>Could be worse <sigh><<

   Could be raining ;-)

   Sorry, a lot of things around our house are related to the movie "Young Frankenstein" :-)

   -paulw

   Posted 3 months ago
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    When a person goes to any of the semi-automated website builders, they are immediately presented a gallery of splash page “themes” which are for all practical purposes the same underlying structure all featuring a different large “stock” photo(s) landing page. Anyone choosing a website theme based on a home page stock photo does not need to hire “me”. They might as well just go to ShutterStock or iStock to get the same shopping experience - they are just looking at pictures!

    Most people are not wanting or needing a “custom” website (most do not even have a unique product or service to begin with), they just want a “customized” whatever everyone else has. Websites that interest me are ones that feature their own high-quality unique photography of their product, service or personnel - I actually learn something about that business. As soon as I go to a site that uses stock photography as a placeholder, that tells me they have nothing I can’t get somewhere else.

    Posted 3 months ago
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    paulw406
    

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    I discovered this site a while back and I went back to it today because I found one of their articles I printed out.

    Some good information, but this typical WordPress website goes from Big to even Bigger as their home page is scrolled. And yes, they are in the website design business. Somehow, I think they are really graphic artists at heart.

    designcrawl.com

    -paulw

    Posted 3 months ago
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    VL Branko
    

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    I remember when this design style first appeared years ago. It was supposed to be bold and different. Now it is common place, stale and boring.

    And because it is common place, stale and boring I love it because it makes my 7 year old site look fresh, new, interesting and so much better. I keep getting so many positive comments about how beauiful people think it is.

    This common design make just make it easier to stand out and look good.

    Anyway that is my take on it.

    Posted 1 month ago
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    paulw406
    

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    Agreed! I bet your site looks great!

    There is a design company in my town. Look at their websites, and theirs. Do they look any different to you? They were all built using Wix and the same template (I am guessing) and all look like what I described. Do you notice anything different among them?

    And I know what a couple of them cost.

    I am not going to link to their website from here but it if you put it all together it is "m des ign mt dot com".

    And like so many website design companies, they really do not describe what they offer and how and what they will put together.

    -paulw

    Posted 1 month ago
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    https://gracegerdes.com/TestGracie/index.htm<br />
    https://gracegerdes.com/TestGracie/about.htm<br />
    https://gracegerdes.com/TestGracie/sigogallery.htm
    Working on the site - Zeiteist.
    Could be worse <sigh>
    jason

    I was interested to revisit your/granddaughters site, something that probably needs fixing, add this to a stylesheet (outwithmedia queries) then revisit any page with a video, desktop and mobile (flush the cache).....

    video {max-width: 100%; height: auto;}

    HTH

    Posted 1 month ago
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    paulw406
    

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    Hi Sinclair!

    Do you mean this one? http://www.cdaofmontana.org/

    -paulw

    Posted 1 month ago
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    paulw406
    

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    Oops! Not talking to me. Sorry!

    -paulw

    Posted 1 month ago
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    VL Branko
    

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    Agreed! I bet your site looks great!

    This is what it looks like. https://shyamasundaradasa.com/

    A lot of different P7 products used depending where you look.

    Posted 3 weeks ago

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